Charlotte Street now gone

Modern Ordnance Survey of Ireland Map of the Camden Complex, showing the approximate route of Charlotte (red) and Old Camden (blue) Streets

Modern Ordnance Survey of Ireland Map of the Camden Complex, showing the approximate route of Charlotte (red) and Old Camden (blue) Streets. The Bleeding Horse was pinched between the two streets at the northern (top) end

The strange convergence of roads at the junction of Charlemont, South Richmond,  Harrington and Camden streets with the east-west thoroughfare of Harcourt Road is a recent addition to the city. Especially odd is the abrupt termination of Charlemont—one of the main routes in to the city and the arc-like segment of road that runs alongside South Richmond street, which was formerly a half of Old Camden Street and is now seemingly nameless.

It wasn’t always so. Describing the approach routes possible for the Battle of Rathmines in 1649, the road south from Camden Street along Charlemont Street was the marked as the “road to Milltown” (Brunskill, 1939). This road followed what became known in 1780 as Charlotte Street, which connected directly Camden and Charlemont Streets and can be seen clearly on maps drawn since (Behan, 1994).

1798 Map of Dublin

1798 Map of Dublin (Click on image for view of surrounding area)

The street’s name was in honour of Queen Charlotte (1744 – 1818), wife of George III (the “mad” one), and mother of his fifteen children. At this time, the area was on the edge of the city, but as can be seen from the 1798 map, there was significant development along the route. 

I was first aware of the non-existence of Charlotte Street on the National Library’s Flickr Stream, who posted the photo “Demolition” by Elinor Wiltshire, which shows the street in 1964. The shop visible in the photograph is of the Kavanagh Sisters Hair Stylists. The Kavanagh family are also present in 1911 Census, with James, a hair-dresser, who looks like he was father of the sisters of 1964, named Ellen and Martha. They would have been 56 and 54 at the time this photo was taken. Next door in 1911 was Willie Kavanagh, who in 1901 was a “Hair-Dresser Improver”.

Looking from Charlemont Street through the intersection of Harcourt Road, onto Charlotte Street, 1910

Looking from Charlemont Street through the intersection of Harcourt Road, onto Charlotte Street, 1910

Just as we risk sinking into the mundane, out pops a really interesting nugget: Charlotte Street was home to the offices of Jacob Neville, land surveyor, who operated there between 1773-1782 and succeeded by Arthur Richard Neville in 1789 (Gibney, 1958). Now for non-Wicklow people, this mightn’t seem too fascinating, but Neville was the first man to do a full survey of Wicklow, publishing his famous map in 1760. His nephew Arthur published an updated version of the map sometime after 1798. Jacob’s contemporaries included Bernard Scalé, who we met at Ely Place and Thomas Mathews who we met at Golden Lane

Charlotte Street, 1974, from Dublin City Library Collection (links to catalogue)

Charlotte Street, 1972, from Dublin City Library Collection (links to catalogue)

Despite the association with Neville, Charlotte Street never amounted to much more than housing small businesses. By the mid-twentieth century, as is evident from the National Library’s Wiltshire photograph, the street had run into terminal decline. A photo taken from a similar perspective in the 1970s from the Dublin City Library Collection shows that not much had improved, and by the 1980s, plans were afoot to develop an office complex. The road was closed by ministerial order on 28th July, 1992, and Charlotte Street officially no longer existed (Behan, 1994). A nod to the history of the place was the naming of a new road around the office complex “Charlotte Way”. The demolition attracted media attention as it involved demolishing Stein’s Opticians, as recounted in this “Come Here to Me” blog post (and update).

Despite officially not existing, a sign for Charlotte Street still exists. Approaching from Charlemont St, there is a small recess in the building, where someone with sympathies to the road that once was has placed a sign up marking the old route.

Plaque at junction of Camden Street and formerly Charlotte Street

Plaque at junction of Camden Street and formerly Charlotte Street

And a plaque? Well the closest we can get to a plaque on a street that doesn’t exist is just in time for the centenary of the Lockout. At the point where Charlotte Street met Camden Street, a plaque marks the building that was between 1912 and 1916 the headquarters of the International Tailors, Pressers and Machinists Union, established by Jewish Workers (having previously housed a synagogue).

Sign for Charlotte Street

Sign for Charlotte Street, an officially non-existant street that goes nowhere


  • A. P. Behan, 1994, Up Harcourt Street from the Green, Dublin Historical Record, 47(1), 24 – 45.
  • Frank Gibney 1958, A Civic Achievement, Dublin 1760-1800, Dublin Historical Record, 15(1), 1 – 10.

11 thoughts on “Charlotte Street now gone

    • Was your fathers name McCabe? If so we are related. We lived at 18a Charlotte street, over Johnson’s shop.

  1. Met a taxi driver in Dublin recently whose grandfather was born off Charlotte street,there was a little laneway off Charlotte street that was at the back of The Television Club(4 “ps”) there were
    four houses in the lane ,The mans name was Hyland.

  2. The 4 ‘p’s I think refers to the Four Patrons but I don’t know what that refers to.
    We (the Sinnott family) lived in 21 Charlotte Street at the corner of 30 Harcourt Road over a public house and only left there in 1960. I have fond memories of Charlotte Street with the traffic coming up from town from Camden Street and turning at our corner. Byrnes tobacconist owned the shop next door and the Farrell family lived across the road from us, I think they ran a bicycle shop? The families all lived over their businesses. Other families in the area at the time were the Cadens’, Burke Morans’ and Craddock families on Harcourt Road.

    • You lived at 21 Charlotte Street in the 50s. The address on my grandfather’s (John Ryan) wedding certificate in 1900 is listed as 21 Charlotte Street, Dublin. Don’t suppose you have any old photos of the place or area. I have just started doing my family tree. I can be contacted on I would appreciate any information regardless of how little.
      John Ryan

  3. The 4 ps was the four Provinces ballroom, previous name of TV Club, which also housed Éamonn Andrews studios. It’s a shame to have lost Charlotte St since it was a direct link to Charlemont St, Ranelagh, etc. without the big square roundabout. As far as I remember the Garda were up in arms when Charlotte Way appeared right beside their Harcourt Square building, otherwise known as the Puzzle Palace, on the former site of the High School.

  4. We lived in number 29 Charlotte Street with mam, dad and brothers (Jim, Peter and Noel Walsh) in the 40s and 50s. Because the houses were condemned, we had to move out in 1958. There was a yard beside us and a milk dairy called Telecaber that was used as stables for the horses. Some of the families around were called the Hannigans and the Nagels. We played a lot in Old Camden Street. Some of the people’s names were the Morrissey
    s and the Clearys.

    • That was the city depot of the Tel-el-Kebir or TEK dairy owned by the Sutton family. An ancestor or perhaps founder had fought with the British army at Tel-el-Kebir in Egypt in 1882. The farm was in Monkstown near Kill of the Grange.

  5. My family lived on Charlotte Street in the 1970s across the road from the Kavanagh sisters. We have old photos of street from that time.

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: Logo

You are commenting using your account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s